1st clip: Showing base m1 dmg 2nd clip: Showing ardour scream damage 3rd clip: Primal rage damage

Primal rage is advertised as a 25% dmg buff: https://deepwoken.fandom.com/wiki/Titanslayer%27s_Adornment

Ardour scream is advertised as 12.5%

This is also not a damage cap and I will provide a clip in a short moment.

This clip shows ardour + ardour scream proving that the armor talent is providing the same buffs as ardour scream which is not an intended feature.

haha

69.17 per hit...

yh im getting robbed off my dmg yk

this is biblical levels of greed

i've seen (unknown user mentioned) do 100 per m1

I need thumbs ups

the last clip doesnt even load for me but i'll thumb it up anyways

If any more proof/additional information is required DM me

Are you sure you’re not hitting the damage cap

crine

This is most likely just hitting dmg cap

I proved it’s not

This is ardour + ardour scream which connotates that titanslayer armour gives the same buffs as ardour scream

I cannot check this so yugi2003_ hello is it possible to check this when ur available

Ardour scream got nerfed

And the talent literally just uses ardour scream

sure

will check rn

yea only 25%

nop, only for the animation, it does not just uses a normal ardour scream

Thanks 🐐

So is my bug report true?

It isn’t meant to use ardour scream it’s meant to be double the effectiveness

Its working.

Its doing 25% not 12.5% (12 to 15)

Then is my damage to the dummy a visual glitch?? It’s clearly doing the same as ardour scream which it’s not meant to

Is ardour scream 12.5%? If so then the clips I’m showing makes primal rage 12.5% too

If this is a visual glitch then I’m just wrong but from other things I’m witnessing like fighting duke and stuff I genuinely see no difference

Where was this clip tested

69.17 -> 78.83 Ardour scream is 12.5%

Yeah and when I primal rage it did the exact same thing

Deepwoken testing place, same exact version as the current deepwoken

Dw about that im just checking something

it seems you reached the damage multiplier cap

uh main game basically

But that can’t be true I showed the clip of ardour scream and ardour active at the same time

Ok whats ur chorus of agonies base dmg when u hover on it

Hover on equipped weapon

I’d have to check again later im on the way to school

Good idea though we can figure it out using the maths

ardour is not even meant to give a damage buff, most likely bugged and bypassing it

Yeah ardour is bugged lol

Oh s***

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You could be right about that I mean my crit won’t do more than 78 either

This is correct, dealing 83% dmg with multiplied ardour scream and ardour innate (bugged and probably bypasses dmg cap)

let me check if ardour is bypassing the cap

Alright

You most likely just hit the dmg cap at a coincidental dmg buff lol

At least we may have found one big

Ardour dmg buff itself is a bug either way, removing the dmg buff removes it bypassing cap

no murmur does not byass the damage cap even with its bugged damage buff

Oh?? So that means

I haven’t hit the damage cap then

Hmmm

Unless everything is a visual glitch

ah i have a theory

Go ahead

Since pvp dummy is weird and has pve stuff work on it, so imagine pve dmg cap is on dummy

Wait what if ardour scream dmg isnt being halved properly when above 25% dmg buff in pvp

Its staying at 12.5%, but the primal scream is being halved correctly yugi2003_

yeap lol

🔥

well at least it respects the hardcap

Yep

If this is all true then

Titanslayer adornment isn’t an suitable armor for my build

If ur high base dmg cap titanslayers dmg increase wont be as strong

Cala mariner would be better

69.17 x 1.125 = 77.81625

Not 78.83

And I didn't have any additonal buffs in the regular m1 clip and the ardour scream clip

How could I hit a damage cap I'm so confused

Ik there's been problems with stats in the past where it'd tell me I have like 490 hp even when i put on my kit

maybe that's the same thing here

thats only visual

ik maybe it's the same thing here

because the math doesn't make any sense

your base damage is not 69.17

Yeah but it's still relevant

wait no is ardour scream multiplied by base dmg?\

you multiply your base damage not your output damage as your output damage is already affected by damage multipliers

damage multipliers affect base damage

Okay you're right but that would still make my ardour scream do less than 78.83

yes but you have a isshins ring equipped just to start with

hmm maybe it is a dmg cap

Lemme check my base dmg

55.2

• dawnfist
• isshins

wait

I should test with dread stacks and see if it does more dmg than 78.83 if it doesn't it's a dmg cap

nvm that's mantra resistance

c*** im js so confused bc maybe ardour can bypass dmg cap but like

i guess the only way we can see if it's a dmg cap is if i test with both primal and ardour active at the same time which I don't think makes a difference therefore it's a dmg cap

i think i've tested it before and it gave me 80 something that's prob with ardour too tho

ardour is bypassing the SOFTCAP, the softcap is at 1.25 and the hard cap is at 1.50, when the softcap is reached any futher damage buffs are halfd

halved

oh s***

thus the primal rage gave 12.5

ohhhh

The percentage increase from 55.2 to 69.17 is approximately 25.31% The percentage increase from 69.17 to 78.83 is approximately 13.97%

so I think it's clear everything is being halved from my dmg being 69.17 since i've already hit the soft cap

but that makes 39.28

yugi2003_ ?

dawnsfist ring is not a damage multplier

okay, the scaling brings up a lil okay but that doesn't explain why isshins ring alone is bumping it up by 25%

it should only be 20%

55.2 x 1.2 = 66.24

okay dawnfist bumps it up by 3dmg

but then this means i haven't hit a soft cap unless it's my talents..?

so we have 20% then 55.2 x 1.125 = 62.1 62.1 - 55.2 = 6.9

69.17 + 6.9 = 76.07

55.2 x 1.25 = 69 69 - 55.2 = 13.8

69.17 + 13.8 = 82.97

^ primal rage

i'm literally not hitting a damage multiplier cap

isshins is 15% and properly gives 15% on your build

mmm so isshins is LYING TOO

?

erm wiki says 1.15 but the game says you give 1.2x dmg and take 1.25x back

yugi what build do u play

maybe im wrong

does this not help my case

how am i hitting a dmg multiplier cap

yh mb mb

it still makes no sense

your base damage is 56.76

oh right cuz of dawnfists

isn't that relevant still 1se

56.76 x 1.125 = 63.855 63.855 - 56.76 = 7.095

69.17 + 7.095 = 76.265

yh i dont see how that's relevant i'm still not hitting a damage cap this doesn't affect dmg multipliers

i have no idea why ur doing 56.76 x 1.125 cus thats 12% not 15%

15 is 65.27

ardour scream does 12.5% dmg buff

the softcap is at 25%, you have 15% so ardour will hit the cap, so will primal rage

"Ardour Scream grants a +12.5% damage and posture damage modifier to the attacks targeting the opponent affected by Ardour Scream"

that's the soft cap not the hard cap why am i limited to 78.83

because ardour scream is bypassing the softcap, meaning you with your buffs applied is doing 78.83, primal rage is not bypassing the cap and being halved meaning the 25%/2 becomes 12.5%

so if you apply a 12.5% buff and compare it to a 12.5% buff the result will be the same

if i combine primal rage and ardour scream I will stay at 78.83

you can also add the extra damage from that one talent that procs when ur low hp and it will also work properly

(unknown user mentioned) as seen in both above clips you are not capped at 78 damage

Hmmmm alright thanks for the help